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Emissions trading scheme


Transport Fuels Technical Advisory Group: Notes of 2nd meeting held on 3 April 2.30pm – 5pm at the Ministry of Transport

Present: David White, Kirstine Hulse, Andrew Campbell (Chair), Frank Wong, David Jacobsen, Geoff Davis (by teleconference from Australia), Barry Blackett, Greg Visser, Roger Fairclough (official), Joern Scherzer (official), Leah Murphy (official), Ian Twomey (expert adviser)

Apologies: Dave Bodger, Ian McDonald, Paul Kelway

1. Meeting commenced with a welcome from the Chair.

2. Previous minutes

The minutes from the meeting on 27 February were accepted. It was agreed that the minutes could be publicly released.

Members asked that the following items be added to the agenda: (1) point of data collection, changing from upstream point to the point of sale; (2) how to treat biofuels; and (3) whether regulations should account for “stock change”

3. Adoption of Updated Terms of References

An updated version of the terms of reference was circulated with the minutes which reflected the addition of item 5 under meeting process: meeting notes will be written in summary form and will not attribute any comments to any persons (Chatham house rules). The update was requested by members at the last TF TAG meeting.  The updated Terms of Reference were accepted.

4. Update on progress of Climate Change (Emissions Trading and Renewable Preference) Bill and Regulation process

Leah Murphy explained the current status of the Climate Change (Emissions Trading and Renewable Preference) Bill (‘the Bill’). She noted the following points:

A question was asked whether there is an information source available that showed the progress made through continuous updates. Officials responded that this was likely not the case but that updates were available through ETG bulletins, and other government information channels (e.g. websites, press releases).

Action: Leah Murphy to investigate whether more continuous updates are publicly available.

5. Update from The Stationary Energy and Industrial Processes (‘SEIP’) TAG

Roger Fairclough noted that the 4th meeting of the SEIP TAG had recently taken place. Some sub-groups have been formed to undertake some more substantive work in specific areas, namely: (1) emission calculation methodology, (2) allocation eligibility criteria, (3) progressive obligations as an alternative to allocation for assistance to industry (are presently awaiting some modelling), and (4) allocation methodology.

Some papers of note will soon be made available to the public which relate to:

6. Hale and Twomey Report

Ian Twomey (expert adviser) provided a brief summary of each of the recommendations made in his report ‘Emissions Trading Scheme, Transport Fuels, Technical Advisory Group, Expert Advisory, April 2008’ (attachment 3 to the agenda). Conclusions and actions are noted below: 

Additional agenda item: Point of data collection

7. Climate Change (Liquid Fossil Fuel) regulations 2008 – drafting instructions to date

Leah Murphy provided a brief summary of the instructions for the emissions trading group legal staff (that would in turn be developed into drafting instructions for the parliamentary council office).  

8. Update on progress with Customs regarding regular and premium octane split

Officials noted that initial inquiries had been made about whether it would be possible to change the octane split used for regular and premium petrol in the customs and excise act.  No indication of likelihood or timeframes was available as yet. 

9. Other business

Whether or not the regulations need to reflect accounting for a change on stock (levels of fuel held at the beginning and end of the compliance year was discussed.  It was agreed that it was not material issue and therefore it does not need be addressed. 

10. Next meeting

It was noted that the (next) third meeting will be held Friday, 2nd May from 11am to 1.30pm.

The Chair closed the meeting at 5:10 pm.

Last updated: 15 September 2008